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Welcome to the Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries Open Thread!

Miss Fisher stands with arms extended, hands resting on a large rope in front of her (a boxing ring). Text reads Open Thread.


(Thanks to [personal profile] cyborganize for the graphic!)

So many friends are watching Miss Fisher, [personal profile] tellitslant and I thought it might be nice to start a new (public) open thread.

Because --

* twitter is too short.

* tumblr is difficult (for some) to archive/track.

* it'd be fun to have my friends talk with each other about MFMM.

* I want to meet your MFMM fandom friends too.


Couple quick notes:

* don't be shy about using comment subject lines. If past is precedent, MFMM conversations can be sprawling and subject lines will help everyone.

* please tag S3 spoilers in your comment subject line.

* please post anything you find on S3! that one video is great but not enough. :D

* it probably doesn't need to be said? but, no character-bashing or ship-bashing. Be respectful of different fanons.


Post away!

The books

Date: 2015-04-09 03:39 am (UTC)
tellitslant: agatha making a shushing gesture (Default)
From: [personal profile] tellitslant
I have SO MANY THINGS I want to discuss that are kind of all crowding me at once, so I'm actually going to start with what I think is a less fraught topic, which is: the books! Anecdotally I hear they're not all that great in comparison to the TV show, especially for those of us who like older Phryne, but I have them on my kindle and was bored today at lunch, and then I suddenly found myself embroiled in reading about Phryne versus the surrealists, with bonus discourse about Phryne's thoughts on reading Krafft-Ebing, and... I am intrigued!

So particularly for those who came to the tv show first, and perhaps even more for those who write fic: have you read the books? Have they informed a lot of your opinions on Phryne and/or everyone else? Are they worth it?

DOCTOR MAC

Date: 2015-04-09 03:48 am (UTC)
tellitslant: agatha making a shushing gesture (Default)
From: [personal profile] tellitslant
omg MAAAAACCCCC *swoons, falls over, etc*

I really have a lot of feelings about Mac, but right now I find myself immensely curious about her background: things like where she was brought up, what class she was, what training to be a doctor would've been like for her...

Share your thoughts? And then we can get deeper into the truly important things, like THOSE WAISTCOATS OMG.

Date: 2015-04-09 03:49 am (UTC)
runawaynun: gill murray looking over her glasses (gill murray glasses)
From: [personal profile] runawaynun
JOOL ISN'T DEAD, she just timetravelled to '20s Melbourne.

And because that is crap, here's a preorder for the s3 soundtrack and Essie sings a track on it: https://shop.abc.net.au/products/mfmm-miss-fisher-v3-cd

TIMELINE

Date: 2015-04-09 05:15 am (UTC)
cyborganize: (fan who River)
From: [personal profile] cyborganize
Phryne's backstory! I've actually wondered whether the books offer more concrete and developed information about this, but since she's aged up for TV (thank you, TV) I don't know that it would help much. The show seems to have approached it mostly via handwave so far – although I say this on the basis of a first viewing and zero research. On rewatch we are TAKING NOTES.

For reference, Essie Davis was born in 1970, which is how you'd get the age 42 data point for Phryne at the beginning of the series, I think. But let's say, just to make the math simpler, that Phryne is 38 when the show opens in 1928. She would have been born in 1890 and been 25 in 1915.

1. When did Phryne and her parents leave Melbourne? In the pilot, Aunt Prudence (her mother's sister) says she hasn't seen Phryne since she was a girl. This seems quite implausible, since Prudence must have ties to England (with her plummy accent) and means to travel. But that aside, this suggests that the Fishers may have left for England not too long after Janey's disappearance. But if they were dirt poor, how did they finance the move? Did Aunt Prudence never want to give them money (she's high society and it doesn't look like she came into it through her marriage – although actually I think I'm confusing Prudence canon with something I read in a fanfic)? Did Mr. Fisher's "titled cousins" help support them or lend money for the move?

2. We know Phryne was a nurse on/near the western front during the war – it would be nice to understand more about the scars she carries from that experience. We know she stayed on in Paris for a time cavorting with the Bohemian crowd (the Renée Dubois episode - events in 1919). In the course of the war, her father inherited land and fortune. Presumably Phryne went back to England to live with her parents after she burned out on Paris – we see her traveling from her glamorous life there at the opening of the series. She doesn't seem to think much of her parents (father, at least), so why did she stay? Phryne returns to Melbourne, it's implied, because Foyle is near the end of his prison sentence.

LINKS

Date: 2015-04-10 03:11 am (UTC)
cyborganize: (media cybergirl)
From: [personal profile] cyborganize
favorite articles about Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries:
Netflix Reviewers Think Your Lady Detectives Are Slutty Sluts - Rebecca Rose, Jezebel, November 2013
Essie Davis: On Playing A Sexually Liberated 'Superhero' Without Apology - Linda Holmes, NPR Monkey See, March 2014
Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries: A Love Story - Elyssa Goodman, The Toast, February 2014
Won't they? The power (and pitfalls) of 'shipping - Genevieve Valentine, The AV Club, February 2015

Tip: the author of that last article wrote this novel, apparently wonderful, that's set in the 1920s.

Clothes and Lingerie:
Women's Fashion
A Brief History of the Brassiere
The Girdle Story
History of the Flapper

Other 1920s Sexiness:
slang - penis, vagina, orgasm, sex, oral etc.
History of Vibrators
girlie magazines
porn pictures & porn films (NSFW!)
Edited Date: 2015-04-10 03:11 am (UTC)

Series 3 Support Group

Date: 2015-04-10 03:40 am (UTC)
cyborganize: (media convergence)
From: [personal profile] cyborganize
What are your hopes and fears? (Let's get shippy!)

Date: 2015-04-11 07:57 am (UTC)
runawaynun: rachel bailey and janet scott interrogating someone (scott & bailey)
From: [personal profile] runawaynun
I'd like Camellia to come back and solve a mystery with Phryne and debate the finer points of Marxism.

location, location, location

Date: 2015-04-12 03:02 am (UTC)
tellitslant: agatha making a shushing gesture (Default)
From: [personal profile] tellitslant
Do we know whereabouts in Melbourne Phryne's house is? I can't remember if they specify which area of the city.

Man I need fandoms that require less research. :P

series 3 episode 1 reactions

Date: 2015-05-09 07:29 am (UTC)
cyborganize: (bsg ladies)
From: [personal profile] cyborganize
If it's even possible to say anything beyond incoherent flailing?

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