Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries: Open Thread!

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Welcome to the Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries Open Thread!




(Thanks to cyborganize for the graphic!)

So many friends are watching Miss Fisher, tellitslant and I thought it might be nice to start a new (public) open thread.

Because --

* twitter is too short.

* tumblr is difficult (for some) to archive/track.

* it'd be fun to have my friends talk with each other about MFMM.

* I want to meet your MFMM fandom friends too.


Couple quick notes:

* don't be shy about using comment subject lines. If past is precedent, MFMM conversations can be sprawling and subject lines will help everyone.

* please tag S3 spoilers in your comment subject line.

* please post anything you find on S3! that one video is great but not enough. :D

* it probably doesn't need to be said? but, no character-bashing or ship-bashing. Be respectful of different fanons.


Post away!

Comments

Re: TIMELINE

[tellitslant]

Hmm the football ep has something about dates in it, doesn't it? Phryne says she hasn't seen a game since 1910 or something?

For the Aunt Prudence element, it's also possible that Aunt P and Phryne have swapped continents a few times or something and just never been in the same place at the same time since Phryne was young. If Prudence was in Australia when the Fishers left, say, then went off to England during the war (?? IDK why, whatever), and came back before Phryne... okay, it's a little implausible, but it could be.

The older-Phryne thing also has the bonus of suggesting that she was quite poor for quite a large part of her life, which I think is interesting. She's not just reorganizing her life, but doing so as an adult - like, go Phryne! And that makes me wonder about her schooling and her determination to learn...

Re: TIMELINE

[gabolange]

Yes, that's right, and Phryne said she was 10. Which would jive with the Janey-birthday dates given previously...I just struggle (A LOT) to buy Phryne as under 30. I'm going to handwave and move on, I think.

Re: TIMELINE

[cyborganize]

YUP looks like they kept the dates more or less book compliant – Phryne was born in 1900 – and decided to handwave Essie Davis. WHY. I'm going to be non-compliant and just subtract 10 years from everything in my head! That 10 years does mean two totally different perspectives on the world though, right? She'd have been at the front by age 18, embroiled with Renee at 19 (more believable, in some ways, but I rather like the implication that a woman doesn't have to be a naive teenager to land in an abusive relationship). And yes, according to the canon dates her family would have come into money around that time, when she was just reaching adulthood, as opposed to later in her life. Everything is less interesting!

It's still unclear to me how Phryne's schooling in England and/or the family's move to England was orchestrated given their poverty. But it's certainly possible that, given their upper class connections, they weren't equally down-and-out that entire time. They've implied that Phryne's dad was a bad sort, so perhaps the destitution was his fault but he got back on his feet with a little help. Phryne could have lived a more middle class life for the prewar decade, hypothetically. IDK, still fanwanking. The experience of class mobility/fluidity is more compelling to me (and perhaps more characteristically modern) than the fairy tale of the urchin who's suddenly turned into a princess.

I accept your Aunt Prudence fanwank!

Re: TIMELINE

[soupytwist]

Do we know exactly when Phryne's family came into money? The handwaving thing really doesn't help when it comes to figuring out important things!

And I would imagine that like a lot of people who were down on their luck but had connections. Phryne might have managed a scholarship or some sort of other financial assistance. And from a family who didn't have a background of that sort of poverty, I'd imagine that whatever resources they could manage would be put towards not SEEMING poor, even if they really were. If you owned property (or someone could put you up), then you could get pretty far on a posh accent, some education, and not much else, is my understanding. :)

Re: TIMELINE

[cyborganize]

Yay for class privilege :P - Phryne's childhood poverty is an element of her character that I really love, but the show doesn't seem very smart about how good breeding and good looks and whiteness and connections to the colonial fatherland always tempered that or put her closer to eventual class mobility.

The idea is that her father inherited a family title and money when his male English relatives were all killed in the war - so I imagine toward the end of WWI.